Justice League: Forever Heroes by Geoff Johns

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14 thoughts on “Justice League: Forever Heroes by Geoff Johns

  1. I find it interesting that the villains for this whole thing are bad versions of the heroes we know. You used a phrase “how their lives were different and inevitably turned them into broken individuals driven by evil desires.” My only issue with doing something like that is that it relies on the idea that our circumstances and experiences dictate who we are. While I fully agree that circumstances and experiences shape us as individuals, I’m not convinced that we’re not already who we are. In other words, I don’t subscribe to the blank slate idea. Superman for example. His character is simply part of who he is. This idea is illustrated in the ’98 Elseworld story Superman: Dark Side where Supes gets raised by Darkseid but still becomes a hero.

    I think part of why I consider heroes “heroes” is because they are heroes no matter what. So to mess with that would bother me a lot. You and I have talked before about the dividing line between Hero and Villain and how I hate the blurring that is now the norm. Part of being a Hero is taking responsibility for the powers entrusted to the hero and THAT is what seems to be lacking in the here and now. Not that heroes are suddenly the bad guys or the bad guys are suddenly the good guys but that characters are not consistently choosing to be responsible (or really, that the artists and writers aren’t choosing to make them consistent).

    I realize that once again I might be reading too much into this but I simply can’t just “like” and drive by. Words and ideas are important and while I’m not sure if comics are being read by teens still (are they?) but if they are, kids growing up influenced by the ideas here is not something I’m in favor of. You and I are adults and can discuss things and not be unduly influenced. But a teen subliminally experiencing the blank slate idea for the first time, well, that can set their feet on a path that will be hard to divert them from. Of course, it all depends on how much influence these comics actually have 😀 😀 😀

    I’m done (before I keep on writing…)

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    1. I definitely see your point and knowing your beliefs and how you perceive individuals, I can understand why you’d believe that we are fundamentally born good/bad, that we don’t have a “choice” in what we become within society. I personally prefer the “we’re all born with violent behaviours but learn through socialization how to be good within society”.

      I also think that in the comic book lore of all heroes, through time, many writers/artists decide to mess around with a character’s personality/their actions to make them much more morally-grey at their core. After all, many would end up thinking that the characters are boring if they were ALWAYS tied to one mold. It’s why there’s more and more antihero/villain-centered stories nowadays. Trying to understand what is not “allowed” in a society is fun to discover. It’s even more thrilling/captivating to watch a hero go through those super bad days where they almost/or do cross that line (e.g. when Batman ends up KILLING someone, you know everyone will be there to find out who, why, where, what).

      As for teens, I have no idea if they even read to the 2nd or 3rd degree with comics or any books. Hopefully they do and they understand these different “ideologies” or ways to conceive morality/justice/good and bad/etc. I mean, it should always be about learning about all the different ways to understand life/things and then to understand where we stand as an individual with all those options. Sort of like how everyone should theoretically be allowed to choose what religion they want to practice/believe. In this case, everyone should be able to choose how they want to understand the good/bad within us, if it’s something that can be changed over time or if we’re born good/bad.

      Hahahaha no worries, sir. I always appreciate it when these things have you thinking about life and that you take the time to share it with me. 😀

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  2. First the art is good! Second I always find fascinating to peek inside the villain’s heads and their past, to know why they took that path to villainy! It was a huge reason why I loved the movie Joker so much!

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  3. It does look interesting, I’ll grant you that – although I’ve never been a fan of simple mirror opposites, and the Owlman and the rest of them seem suspiciously close to that. That said, I am intrigued and before I make up my mind I’ll gladly read that storyline 😀
    Great review, Lashaan!

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    1. I definitely understand what you mean and I too am skeptical when I see mirror-image villains. However, it’s not surprising that it “exists” here because of the multiverse, and we’ve both seen something similar being done with Snyder’s Metal event with the “dark” mirror versions of Bruce too. So far, they both work for different reasons, and even in this case, the Crime Syndicate aren’t complete mirrors, they have original stories and have a complex relationship between one another too. Hope you enjoy Geoff Johns’ run if you ever decide to try it out. 😀 Thanks for reading, Ola!

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    1. Thanks, Caroline! Did you mean “I DON’T like sci-fi stuff”? And maybe… Cyborg is a hero who had an accident and was then fused with future tech to allow him to survive, which ultimately made him a walking SUPER computer connected to the virtual world.

      As for Owlman… Hahahahahaahahah In this story, Owlman is Bruce Wayne’s father from another world! There’s an Owlman in Watchmen too hahahaha I guess there’s a lot of them huh? Maybe someone should think of making Owlwoman or Owlgirl. I know who could play that hero too! 😀 😀 😀

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